Talk:HOWTO UT2004
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[edit] Deletion Nomination
What the heck is that? An effort to write a howto?! If there is nothing more to it than installing, this article is really pointless! (At least mark this article a stub! From my point of view this is article useless)
Agreed. Article should be deleted.
- The article received a substantial edit today, but I still feel it's not appropriate for this wiki. Why do we need (half-completed) manual install instructions for a package that 1) has it's own installer and 2) has a package in portage?
- On top of this, the article is badly written with poor howto-style, poor wiki-style and recommends methods such as manually editing the groups file which should not be used (you should use the tools such as gpasswd for modifying group memberships).
- --AllenJB 15:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
- Please, don't delete this UT2004 how-to.
- I took time to update it, and index it from the HOW-TO general index, but I still can see on the how-to page that it's still canditate for deletion.
- I don't know how-to remove this "canditate for deletion".
- Thanks for your help !
- cheers
- Luc VERNEREY, 14 may 2007, 23:25 GMT+1
- Many thanks for your sympathetic encouragements.
- I "badly wrote this poor article" in thinking helping newbies that would like to setup the game, as the installer won't do all the stuff for you.
- You know newbies ? Those ones that are just issued out of Windows and don't even know what a user group is ?
- As a subscriber of the UT2004 mailing list, I once (but, yes, only once after all) received a request for help on how to setup UT2k4. I also encountered difficulties in setting that game up, as I was less skilled in "Linux-art" as I can be today when I first setup that game-up (the package was already build in the portage tree).
- Delete it if you wish or if you are in quest of hard disk space, but you could have used more "pleasing" words.
- After all, I was thinking that a wiki was for helping the others users, whatever could be their "skill level" in Linux. If you consider this as pointless, maybe you should simply trash all the wiki ?!
- Luc VERNEREY, 5th October 2007, 21:44, GMT+1.
- I have reverted the removal of the nomination for deletion for a number of reasons. Firstly, no changes were made to improve the article in any way. Secondly, it's considered bad form for article authors to remove nominations from their own articles (they're considered biased) - especially without any modifications to the article.
- Additionally, other than the article author, all responses have been in support of the nomination.
- Until the article is substantially improved, the nomination should remain.
- --AllenJB 20:44, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- To be honest, I don't understand what you call nomination. I don't think I ever tried to remove any nomination or if I did it, that was accident.
- However, I substantially improved the article if you refer to the 1st version of this HOW-TO. I started my job on a first version of this HOW-TO which was existing. I didn't wrote that first version. I just improved this HOW-TO which was only long of two lines. For the first version, I agree that this was not very helpfull HOW-TO as it only indicates that for installing UT2004, you should type "emerge ut2004" as root in a console.
- I gave all the details that are visible today the 24th april 2007, but that doesn't mean that this article shouldn't be improved anymore.
- Luc VERNEREY, 5th October 2007, 23:56, GMT+1
[edit] Editiors Choice DVD
I just bought the Editor's Choice DVD and found out the fun way that there is no Linux support. I had to use Windows to install the game because the ebuild quits as soon as linux-installer.sh comes up missing. Even after solving that (props to coldboot who bought the 6-CDs retail version long ago), unshield didn't like the .cab files which now contain everything. If there's a way to install this beast without Windows, I'd like to write it up. Even if there's not, this page ought to document the difference between past and recent retail disc versions. Gonna go write about my XP adventure and put it here, unless someone thinks it ought to be a different article. -rpc
[edit] update
I solved the unshield problem but there's still no obvious and legal way to get linux-installer.sh. It would just make more sense to fix the ebuild-- at least now I (we) know windows is not necessary to get the data out of the DVD. So I'm done here... delete at will.
[edit] Bug(?)
after converting my BIN file to ISO format, all the names are now lowercase, causing the makefile to fail. (stupid me for imaging my disks in BIN/CUE format...)
- The most likely reason for this is because you haven't retained the Joliet file information (an extension to ISO that, amoung other things, allows long file names). I would expect there's a way to keep that information, but I wouldn't know how. It would depend on what you're using to do the conversion - check its documentation (try "man <program>").
- --AllenJB 20:35, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- bin2iso doesn't have a manpage, or even --help information, it just gives some usage information if you call it without arguments
